Like meditation on steroids

This is another great podcast - it's long, but 100% worth it. Tara (who I podcast-meditate with regularly) and Roland (who is one of the fantastic folks from Johns Hopkins and also beyond peaceful despite a state 4 cancer diagnosis) discuss the intersection of meditation and psychedelics, and how opening the mind can be accomplished by both, and both can work in tandem. Folks, the Doors of Perception was published in the 50s and here we are 70 years later and all I can say is - ok, we're making progress.